Logan has been diagnosed with low thyroid levels (hypothyroidism).  He had a score of 4.
He has had hair loss, flaky skin, weight gain and is very lethargic. 
He will start on tablets to treat the condition.
Does anyone know of any other Picards who have been diagnosed with the same condition?

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No..I don't know another Picard with hypothyroïdism...

There are a few. Check Dr Jean Dodds site @ Hemopet for some information on tests & treatment options. she also has a book. Another book is, "The Canine Thyroid Epidemic, Answers You Need For Your Dog," ~ Diane Laverdure. IMHO, hypothyroidism in dogs is likely not so different than in humans: the thyroid is a master gland that is more "the canary in the coalmine" reacting to, or notifying you of toxins in your environment.

I know of it in one of the Picardy Lurchers.

Yes, I have one, just on levothyroxine after trying forthyron. He is doing great on it. He was at the age of 5 when diagnosed after being very lethargic, before that I never had a problem with him. My vet told me in his case it is not heritable and just like in human, just a single case. His behaviour is normal, no agession then or now. Just a normal Picard

These are one of the conditions a lot of people believe is due to the use of collar instead of harness, as the thyroid gland is affected.

It seems quite a few people are now turning to a harness in preference to a collar due to the damage a collar could inflict on the delicate neck area.

And don't forget the showline!!! That is what cost Friques his thyroide

Is he on replacement therapy?

Yes, Marta Amundson has Zoe from me that has hypothyroidism.

Did they assess his thyroid antibody levels too?

Oh no!!!! I'm so sorry to hear this Sue! X

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2 months ago

Sonja Taylor

There is a 1 year old Berger Picard in Canada that has been diagnosed with idiopathic epilepsy. She experienced two seizures shortly after her first birthday, following a traumatic life change (the death of the other dog in the house). She has been prescribed phenobarbital, and since taking this medication has had no further seizures but she is now experiencing what appear to be sudden onsets of dizziness / wobbliness, about 5 times a day. These periods seem to occur when she is sitting quietly and so far have not happened when she is engaged in an activity. The vet has also recommended that her food be switched to ProPlan Neurocare as this can help with epilepsy. Does anyone know of other Picards that suffer from epilepsy, or have any experience with phenobarbital / Purina ProPlan Neurocare food? ... See MoreSee Less

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Sorry to read this! Sorry for the dog and her owners! I have no experience with these combi, sorry

So sad. I would have to read the ingredients in the food. Wonder what's in there they feel would help with seizures

Ketogenic diet is supposed to help

When one of my Paps started with idiopathic seizures I learned that rosemary can trigger them and many dogfoods have it as a preservative. That's when I started to feed raw. He and his daughter both still have seizures but never as hard or as long as they used to.

Yes I have heard about rosemary also.

University of Missouri is doing a genetic study on epilepsy with a grant from Canine Health Foundation. Please have the owner contact Liz Hansen and send blood it.

Just curious, do they CT the head to ensure there is no brain tumour? I would assume they do to then call it idiopathic.

Great suggestions both above from Betsy Gilardi Richards and Laurie Mack. I have not heard of any Piacrd with idiopathic epilepsy.

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11 months ago

Inger Karlsson

Any heart issues reported to this group?
There are approximately 65 picards in Sweden. Two have been diagnosed with aorta stenosis. One severe, one mild. The one with "severe" is a happy unaffected soon to be 12-year-old. The one with "mild" died from other causes. They are litter mates btw.
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On my side, not heard of any, but perhaps because non diagnosed ...

Hear quite often of heart murmurs ranging from 1 to 3 but to date none have gone on to have any physical symptoms. When operated on for neutering the heart murmur disappeared so they think it could be when the dogs are stressed at the vets surgery. . A couple were referred and checked out by heart specialists for heart beats being very slow they were classed as innocent and dogs lived to 13 and 15 years of age. One with a heart murmur who died from something else the post mortem showed no heart defects. So I would say no.

I might add both the picards in my thread had ultrasounds/echocardiagrams done.

My first Picard had a aorta stenosis , but died at the age of 6 from kidney failure.... She never had any suffering from the aorta stenosis, she was a very happy and lively dog!

Cachou has had a heart murmur for years but with no other symptoms. She is certainly less active now but pretty healthy for 10 years

Lara out of that litter Connu and Ciel don't have a murmur, Croc does but only a grade 1 and no other symptoms. Celt had a murmur but when tested at the Royal Dick (they said it was a physiological split so just a noise apparently a lot of Greyhounds have this) the vets who did Celts post mortem said his heart was perfectly normal. Both parents Véronique de la tour Philippe and Urreus de la tour Philippe don't have a murmur.

Bela(10,5 years old) also have some trouble, his cardial valve don´t close correct, but he is fine. He just don´t like it very hot, and no bicycling (that´s how I found it) A friend of mine have a Picard with aorta stenosis, 5 years very fine in health

My Caradoc (BP/pitbul mix) had a heart murmur, he was already 10 when I adopted him, the vet opted to keep an eye on it as he did not seem bothered by it at all. He lived to age 20 and passed of congestive heart failure. It never bothered him until the last few days. I always made his food for him, with lots of veggies, organic meats/fats/oil, and high fiber. I think his diet made all the difference for him.

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1 month ago

Liz Annie

i am getting my picard puppy in august. ... See MoreSee Less

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That is great news Liz and good to see that you are joining a health group so you can find out about the breed and what problems like a sensitive digestion you need to be aware of. On the whole the breed is pretty robust though.

Welcome Liz to the family BP

Hi Liz!

Welcome Liz Annie, I am getting one end of August too, will be my fourth Picard. Highly addictive, beware 😀


Congrats and welcome


Congratulations! But be warned, Picards are like peanuts -- it is almost impossible to have only one!

Yay! Post lots of pics!!!

Liz Annie I have posted details of the other UK groups we have please feel free to join us there also where you can tell us all about your soon to be new addition.

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1 month ago

Shirley Hitchman

In this group we encourage Picardy sheepdog owners to post articles and general information which will be of interest or help to other owners. ... See MoreSee Less

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